(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]So, I finally get around to checking out this newer version of the place. I ended up in this forum lastly. I probably should have started with this thread instead of just bouncing around first.
Well, welcome back, Rob. I finally managed to regain Internet access, yesterday, the last day of December. I haven't fiddled around here too much, of late, though. With broadband Internet access, though, maybe I'll have more time free to fiddle with various things.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]First let me say that I did not delete these postings of mine (the so called heralding of doom) due to you and you alone. You give yourself too much credit with that statement. Though I will not deny I took some exception to a few of the things said in response to some of what I said over at the RoK. Your blatant condemnation and condesending verbal accustions seemed a bit too much at the time, and came quite unexpectedly. Your disappointment in me (or at least what seemed like such) caught me off gaurd.
My "blatant condemnation," as distinguished from just "mere condemnation?" With catching you off guard, I thought that my comments were rather timely. You set into motion a chain of events. The world changes, and revolves onward.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]While I can't rightly claim to have any omniscient ability (despite a small want for omniscientificness) in reading into any of your intentions or well worded descriptions of your Non-Destructive Reincarnations of this hallowed space, it can't rightly be claimed to still exist if only Your Emminence has direct access to it. Indeed, for many of us, more than once, the stuff was destroyed as far as we were concerned. It was nice of you though, to post links in at least one instance, to the version before last (if I understand this thread correctly) even if that link was only mentioned in passing and many of us missed it entirely for quite some time.
In actuality, multiple incarnations of this site still co-exist, simultaneously. I simply de-prioritize them, and make new use of the existing URL address which ever serves as the default location of the site's current incarnation in use, in an active sense. The other incarnations become abodes primarily for myself, which I visit from time to time, albeit for different reasons.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]Still, back to my "hearalding" of that latest non-destruction;
As I said you had only a part in my decision to delete such postings of a more than personal nature. You also failed to mention that I destroyed 3 times as many personal posts over at the RoK. I won't have every word ever typed by my hand twisted into someone else's conformity to be used as weapons of ill intent against my conscience and person. It just doesn't suit me to argue past an explanation already given.
The ROK is of no concern to me, for the most part. You chose to destroy something of sizable value to me here on this site - namely, your own previous input.
As far as it not suiting you not argue past an explanation already given, you don't have to argue, at all. However, that said, explanations are often lacking as stated, in this world. I much prefer that explanations make sense.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]Within the confines of my deletions was a full response to one of your more personal questionings about why I would risk such an imbibement to begin with after 7 months of sobriety. It was my full fledged, and soul searching response, that upon being re-read by myself, which held most of the blame in that decision. Though indeed, there were still others who in my opinion had a bit too much to say on the matter as well. Not all things ever said to me end up in the more public places of these sites. In fact most of what I do is done behind the sight of the public eye. Such was the case with some of those condemnations.
Once upon a time ago, I had a couple of comrades who partook of drink. Both went to the beach, albeit on opposite coasts of the United States. Both died. Risks are always easy to take. Unnecessary risks can often carry with them steep costs. One died after a couple of weeks, following his neck being broken. The other one died more quickly,. although his body did not wash up on shore until a few days after the fact. The risk is yours to take, certainly, but those risks often impact other people beyond just one's own self.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]It came to me then, that a man should not have to bare his soul in order to protect his own honor.
I can think of no better way to protect one's own honor. That aside, it was your antics, not your honor, that precipitated what ensued.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]I deleted close to 100 postings that day from both spaces that I have used as a sort of Blog space. As well as many other posts from within various threads. As I said it was mostly things posted at the RoK that went missing. Some of which I copied and saved for my own personal useage and others wiped neatly and cleanly from the realm of the "hyper-paced".
The irony of it is that I simply tracked your deleted postings on this site via Google's cache feature. So, your effort here to remove them from perusal was in vain. Of course, I'm on a new computer, as of yesterday morning, and most of what was on the old computer will likely languish there on another desk, bereft of Internet access.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]I have also taken huge steps backwards in my manner of posting anything too personal since then. I am at a point of comfort in my life. A point quite unlike any other so far. I am comfortable with my past, present and promise of the future. So, like I said, re-explaining explanations already given goes beyond what I'm willing to do at this point. After that posting of a such an explanation (of which I am even unsure that you have ever seen) I decided the next day to delete anything with personal mention to myself or my family. I may have gone a step further if I had been able to, and continued on to wipe out every word I had ever typened in both locales if it had been possible.
How very sad, then, for the personal aspect of you is what holds the greatest attraction to your fellow man. It was at the very heart of your most significant contributions to the online medium's dialogue moment's of value.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]Alas, Crom probably would not have like that very much as it could have seriously affected the continuity of the data base and rendered many things in disarray. Though that summation is complete speculation on my part at this point. Though it was alluded to by him in a recent quick worded conversation of sorts between he and I.
Deleting your postings, whether outright or in a roundabout way, would not affect the "continuity" of the ROK's database.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]The choice I made was also made knowing that people might notice. In fact I made sure to tell people I had done so just in case they wondered. Still, none of what I erased ever seems to have been missed and things carry on without them. Here, as well as there. Both places probably better off without them as far as anyone can tell. And indeed, I have been left free of many questioning statements made by the less than worthy to comment on my own worthiness as as person.
Well, I, for one, noticed. I still notice. Granted, you may not value the same things about your postings that I value, but why wouldn't I have noticed? The admin logs immediately alerted me to such.
As far as others commenting on your own worthiness as a person, you fret too much.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]The fact was I grew weary of the constant reprisals and personal attacks from amongst a diverse and divergent populace from the membership of these places. Most of these made from those who are never willing to discuss (in friendship or emnity) any of their own personal moments and lives. I am not always one for one sided conversations. Nor am I to be treated as a fool or talked to as a child. Both things I feel have become commonplace for certain individuals when dealing with me. Though I suppose that's partly my fault for playing the part for a bit too long. Perhaps a constantly friendly demeanor makes for a good target at times.
People are people. You place too much value in what you characterize as "constant reprisals" and "personal attacks."
"Certain individuals" doesn't really tell me anything, of course. To whom are you referring?
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]As to whether any of this was done in such a way as to make earlier typened words seem so "casualy" unadhered to and "dismissed", well..., that's simply your take on it. Though I'm certain I can assure you with honesty that that was not the case. First of all, I thought long and hard about if I should delete anything. After all, I am not ashamed of my past. It's what has formed me into the me of today. By all accounts, a person I am quite comfortable in being. Though that is far from saying I desrve to be put to the question every time another soul decided to read what I write. I made up my mind to quit inviting my own displeasures in these places I come to relax and enjoy.
Ah, yes, the past. I learned long ago to not dwell unnecessarily in the past. It has certain utility value, at times, but can prove to be quite a distraction.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]And secondly, at the time I had typened such words aloud here (which was many months prior) I held no intention what-so-ever of destroying anything. Your labeling me The Herald of Doom, and then persuing a reason in which to lay the not-so-wanton non destruction of the forums at my feet, seems oddly odd. Even by your standards. Though now that I think on it, I can't claim to even know what your standards might be, so maybe it's not odd at all. Yet, I find myself wondering if perhaps your want of omniscientificness exceeds my own, thus making my labeling more understandable.
I can and do understand that you had no intentions of destroying anything, at the previous iteration of time. But, I also distinguish intentions from one time frame from actual actions in another time frame.
Understand, Rob, that in deleting your own contributions to the site, in posting form, you deleted the very heart of what made that incarnation of the site to be something that held value to me. You rendered the remainder of the site something that, while perhaps not utterly without value to me, was substantially of reduced value to m.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]I like you Charles, in lieu of not really knowing how you feel in return. And despite what you may or may not think, I consider you to be a man of merit and integrity. My deletions held no malice or blame within their context. They were done as a measure of self protection (of sorts). Unlike what seems to be stated in the beginning of this thread, where The Herald has been cited as the instigator of said non destruction.
It isn't a question of malice. You set about to eradicate some of your own prior words. I could have easily turned a blind eye to it, but that would have served no useful purpose, insofar as I could discern.
As far as liking you goes, I like you, just fine. I have for a long while, now. You view my own actions and words regarding the matter in question to have been unnecessary, to say the least. Yet, trying to take back your words posted is a plan fraught with potential problems. What was gained, pray tell me? Instead of subtle anonymity, it simply became front page banter.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]I appologize for over simplifying the non destruction of the forums here in Crom's shoutbox over there. The intention was to inform people they would have to once again re-register. Though I suppose they would have figured it out sooner or later all by themselves.
I don't suffer from a need nor a desire for an apology, Rob. People apologize far too quickly and far too often, in this day and age. They should be saved for those occasions when they are actually warranted.
I'm not offended. Rather, I simply shake my head at your own lack of appreciation for the value of what you had posted.
(12-31-2011 01:02 AM)The One Time Herald Wrote: [ -> ]The One Time Herald - He Heralds No More.
Not of Doom nor of Rebirth. He sits is a form of personal silence. Heralding Nothing.
Enjoy the Hollidays
Rob
That's a good picture of the Silver Surfer (the one in your profile, not the one that you attached in your other posting from yesterday, elsewhere in the forums here.
Most of my time in recent weeks or months on the GrimFinger.Net side of domain life have been focused elsewhere, rather than here - such as over at Sol Anctum. That, however, is a site erected for HW-854 activities.
I've also tried to invest a tad more time and energy into the PlayByMail.Net website, even though doing anything on dial-up proved to be an exceedingly slow slog through bandwidth Hell.
The new computer and the attendant broadband Internet access opens up a whole range of new possibilities for me. All of my old files and software that I used regularly are still on that old computer, though. <sigh> I had not really intended to get a new computer, anytime soon, but that said, it's still nice to have one. The new monitor is a lot bigger, particularly wider, than the old monitor that I was making do with. My gut instinct tells me that I may need to annihilate all former traces of website existence, and simply start from scratch, anew. <smile> That's always easier to do, when the site is pretty much dead from disuse.
The screen is so wide, now. It's hard to get used to.
I was sick, yesterday evening. I think that it may have been a virus, of some type. I feel much better, now - not 100%, but much better, nonetheless. Unfortunately, my wife got sick, today, so she is feeling pretty miserable, tonight - her sleeping at the moment, aside.
Cheer up, Rob, and take the world in stride.